Doesn’t the pastor see what’s happening around him? Second, if you know a member of the church staff, set up an appointment with that person and ask them if they can tell you what happened. If a pastor institutes changes that are too abrupt, he’ll alienate much of the congregation. If they won’t tell you or the answer is “no,” I’d be concerned. Meanwhile, the wake of his rein will crush the community and can cause people to walk away from the faith. The one deacon that appeared to be supporting the pastor up until that point immediately blurted out “That’s not going to happen!” Needless to say, that was a bit gratifying to see that our efforts were actually noticed over the years. The trustees and executive board wants the pastor and the people he came with gone, but they refuse to leave and in fact out number the remaining members of the church, so a church vote did not go in the favor of those wanting him gone. For the Clerk of Session, see, "An Introduction to Practice and Procedure in the Church of Scotland", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Session_(Presbyterianism)&oldid=940326009, Governing assemblies of religious organizations, Articles with dead external links from May 2018, Articles with permanently dead external links, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 11 February 2020, at 21:46. Is it growing, shrinking, or stagnating? For example: https://blog.restoringkingdombuilders.org/2012/01/04/confronting-your-pastor/, https://blog.restoringkingdombuilders.org/2011/11/28/stupid-pastors/, https://blog.restoringkingdombuilders.org/2011/08/29/conflict-with-the-pastor/. -Tom. Kathy, I’m sorry for your situation. More warning?”. Should you wish to add any requests, briefly add it in the last part of your letter. He’s into truth telling, not truth concealing. Your article was helpful but there’s still no answer to what we do next. While he may not like the disagreements, the way he handles disagreements says a lot about his character. *They and their family members will suffer tremendously. And he and I have about 40 people, family and friends that are waiting to come join us at the new church, but since we have not been able to assume the pulpit, we have not given them a date in which to start attending. Someone with a charming personality? Believe me, it’s worth it! I don’t think you need to advocate for him. In some churches, the board can make the decision unilaterally. I will certainly read your other posts as your counsel as already blessed me. It’s essential that you follow your governing documents to the letter. When anxiety goes down, conflict goes down. After the business session ended, the leaders allowed the congregation to ask questions about the past and future to move on. Hang in there! He refuses to leave saying that the proper channels weren’t followed although from your article it seems that they were. Finally, they need to follow labor law so the church doesn’t end up in court. Take the attitude, “We wish things had worked out, but this wasn’t a good fit.” It’s better to admit it now than a year later when you don’t have much of a church left. Thank you so much for your assistance. Expect some people to leave the church, especially those who attend just because of the pastor. The deacon who is chairman supports the pastor because they’re friends and because they’ve made some sort of a pact together. We have been working in ministry together for 10 years now. I was a pastor for nearly four decades, and I saw a lot of my colleagues terminated in senseless ways. With no effort on his part to change, he was asked to resign. When our Savior sacrificed Himself in our stead, the veil was torn. Would you be willing to send me a copy of your church’s constitution and bylaws? I can’t understand why the pastor would refuse counseling. Since I’ve been the victim of deception and destruction myself, I know how it feels from my angle … but I’ve also witnessed a controlling pastor in action myself. There are others as well. remove the pastor! Under no circumstances should your group surrender the building to a single individual. Only escalate matters if the pastor refuses to acknowledge any wrongdoing. The members of the session are the pastor (Teaching Elder) of that congregation, and the other ruling elders (sometimes called "lay elders"). Finally, I would welcome the opportunity to resign rather than be fired. A letter was sent to the secretary, another lady, and this past Sunday the Asst. The bottom line issue between this pastor and the deacons is that he believes he is “Pastor” and he demands final say on all issues. What do you do when a pastor states that he is above the bylaws and acts accordingly? I am a pastor who have been fired by my bishop in front of national television which broadcast the story in the news. Are you both serving on a full-time basis? I’ve been falsely accused of misdeeds and it’s wounded me to the core, so I understand how you feel. However, I need additional information and would like to ask you some questions first: *What is your average attendance on Sundays – counting everybody on the campus? This kind of situation is very common in churches these days … as is the way it’s being handled. I’m so sorry this situation has happened to you and your church. I believe his previous church folded, but our search committee must have felt he was able to explain how that happened. The Lord confirmed to his spirit that his time in that spiritual community was over. It sounds to me like the pastor came to the church with the idea of taking control and running it unilaterally. We then brought this to him with the deacons and he again refused to agree with our request that he work with the deacons. He probably knows this and is hoping that the opposition will leave instead. May I ask you some questions? It doesn’t apply to church policy. We don’t know what to do. Thanks for writing. The board has followed these steps in accordance with the bylaws. *The terminated pastor is often in so much pain that he turns to alcohol, drugs, or illicit sex. I am sorry this has happened to your church. This is a no-win situation all around, so the quicker you can bring in a professional, the quicker you can get this resolved. I believe that Christians lie when we cover up the real reasons why a pastor left, and that the pastor is lying if he states one reason why he’s leaving when it’s really something else. He refused. If they do, people will press them for details, and then lawyers might get involved. 3. I appreciate your comments about being sensitive to the needs and care of the pastor and his family. The 2 who won’t address it are ‘peacekeepers’ in their own eyes. Do not try and destroy the pastor or you’ll destroy your church. You have to serve people well before they give you authority. I wrote a book about a conflict that I experienced in a church 4 years ago. You can expect some fallout. God is taking care of my family and our needs and we felt it was the right thing to do. They may be on the church website … if not, call the office and ask them to send you the documents online … and if they won’t do that, ask your friends in the church for the documents until you get them. Next time, I’ll talk about how to say goodbye to a pastor in a way in which everyone can win. If most of them are in favor of it, in addition to the leaders, then you can probably keep the church united. We were a Baptist church before the new pastor came in and he recommended that we change our name from “Blank Baptist” to “Blank Bible”.